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- Access to Patron only feed on this site and a special "Uncommon" supporter color on DBM Discord server (Patreon Only)
- Access to Supporter only discord channel on DBM Discord, which may have additional DBM status updates and conversations.
- You gain the ability to embed links on DBM Discord Server.
Rare Titanforge (Patreon)/ Twitch Subscriber (Any Tier):
- Includes benefits of uncommon rank, but with "Rare" supporter color on DBM Discord server
- In addition, if you are a Discord Nitro user, you can use cross server emoji on DBM Discord.
- Includes benefits of previous ranks
- In addition, you can also embed files/images in Discord (great for the gifs/memes channel)
- Access to twitch emotes, including access to them on any discord server. (Twitch only)
- Includes benefits of previous ranks, but with "Epic" supporter color on DBM Discord server
- In addition, if you're a twitch streamer, your stream will be advertised by bumping you to top of the Discord user list with LIVE role any time you're live.
- Includes benefits of previous ranks, but with "Legendary" supporter color on DBM Discord server
- Includes benefits of previous ranks, but with "Artifact" supporter color on DBM Discord server
- In addition, you will also gain contributor rank in discord and have access to and be able to take part in behind the scenes development conversations and your opinion in this conversaitons will matter strongly.
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What are differences between supporting on Patreon and supporting on Twitch?Patreon Pros:
- Patreon only takes between 5-10% for their fees, giving most of your support to creators.
- Patreon gives access to more support options. You can give as little or as much as you want using more tier options or the custom option to plug in your own support amount. If you want to give 3.54 for some reason, you can.
- Patreon has clear and defined goals that let users know where DBMs support stands
- Patreon has better discord integration that allows PER tier discord roles. This allows incrementally better rewards the higher the users sub tier.
- Not everyone likes Patreon, or wants to create a new account for it.
- Patreon is blocked in some countries (like China)
- User has no control at all over billing date. It's always 1st of month, period. If you don't have funds on 1st Patreon will keep retrying throughout month, but people don't like this lack of control.
- Twitch gives access to Twitch only features (like emotes).
- Twitch integrates directly with Twitch client/curseforge, the number 1 platform for Addon distribution. This means you probably already have an account. The sub button will literally appear on addon page on client.
- If you have Amazon prime, you are provided with a free once a month sub at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you. If you aren't using your free sub for another author or streamer, you can use it on DBM and not let it go to waste. Caveat, it doesn't auto renew, so you have to use it manually once a month.
- Twitch lets you control when you are billed. If you sub on 5th, you are billed every month on 5th.
- Users who don't have access to Patreon do to country blocks can offer their support via Twitch
Why are you suddenly offering Twitch options?
- Twitch takes about 50% of your support amount for their fees (ouch). A lot less of your support actually reaches the creator.
- Twitch has less financial options. You can only do subs for 5, 10, or 25, period. This Means no less than 5 dollar options or greater than 25 options and far less options in between as well.
- Twitch integration only allows a single role for all 3 tiers. There is no way to automatically assign users from each tier to 3 different roles at this time. This means I can't give additional rewards to tier 2 and tier 3 subs. If you are a tier 2 or tier 3 sub, you're discord perks will still be same as tier 1.
Which should I use?
- To be honest, this is always something I thought would be pretty cool, it just wasn't something Twitch supported for addon authors, until now. Twitch just started offering this as an experiment on their side.
- It's good for users to have more options. Especially users who do not have access to Patreon
What about Discord integration?
- As a creator, I'm biased to say Patreon has far lower "man in the middle" fees than twitch. If you can use Patreon, this is ideal way to give support. If you're already a Patreon supporter, #nochanges
- However, I also fully recognize many avoid Patreon for various reasons and Twitch gives an alternative option to those who do not want to (or can not) use Patreon and has great potential to bring in new support.
- I also recognize that some current Patreon supporters likely will prefer twitch and might move their sub over to it, which will likely have a fairly negative financial impact to addon authors initially, but will hopefully balance out by the new users that are brought in.
- Patreon integration supports custom role assignments to every single sub tier level. As such, Patreon users receive additional perks at higher tiers that Twitch users sadly do not get access to.
- Twitch integration seems to only offer syncing of subs to a single role, regardless of sub tier. This means tier 3 2 and 1 subs all go to a single "Twitch Subscriber" role. As such, it makes it difficult to offer additional perks (on discord) for tier 2 and 3.
- While I wanted to match Tier 1 2 and 3 Twitch subs to existing 5 dollar, 10 dollar and 25 dollar patreon tiers, it's simply not possible at this time. As such, all twitch subs are matched to the 5 dollar Titanforged Rare tier and benefits. If the Twitch integration improves in future, I'll grant access to the "Epic" and "Legendary" tiers to tier 2 and tier 3 Twitch subs. Twitch does gain access to cross server access to DBMs twitch emoji's though.
- All the tiers are broken down above that explain what is unlocked as a Patreon sub or as a Twitch sub.
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