*in Tidus voice* "This is my story" Recap/history (skip spoiler if you've followed thread for last year)
Ok, it is time for a new post/update. This post is about the travesty of the United States healthcare and dental system and how it's repeatedly kept me from getting help, and then when I finally did have the money to get help (thanks to all of you), I was taken advantage of with dishonesty, price gouging, and low quality of care that resulted in (to no surprise) MUCH higher costs.
Since the last status update of this thread, the appointments continued to make progress at a crawl pace. I literally only got final bite dentures 2 weeks ago. After which, I was like "finally, lets take a final CT and get those implants done". He took that 3rd CT and I went to front desk to make an appointment to review CT and discuss next phase (implants) after 11 months of no teeth in my mouth. They told me earliest opening was 2 weeks later (this week). Of course, when appointment time came (Tuesday, Sept 10th), I call up only to find they forgot to book it (this is second time that's happened btw). Fortunately they were like "come in tomorrow". This was yesterday (Wed. Sept. 11th).
Well here is where things get worse. I went in and he showed me that CT to tell me I had SUPER aggressive reabsorption and amount of bone I have for implants is so bad, I won't even be able to get full implants on top or bottom. They'll have to be short molars on both ends. In addition, my lower ridge bone had become so thin that normal size implants can't even be used and the implant systems we discussed that I wanted are off table, because the only implants that'll work are super thin specialized ones (Narrow Diameter Implants). But wait, there is more. In addition, he revealed my CT showed massive bone damage to sinus cavity caused by 3 very large sinus polyps. That before he could even do top implants, I needed to go to an ENT and get that taken care of. He made it sound pretty serious. I stopped him right there and asked "this is my 3rd CT, didn't you see that on the other 2". That's when he told me he did see/suspect it from earlier CTs, but didn't mention it because it wasn't as clear as it was in 3rd, plus he said hadn't come up with a treatment plan yet. I did not like this answer. In the last 10 months I've been seeing him, he didn't tell me to go to an ENT and take care of this problem that might need taking care of months ago, because something might be there. I waited months at a time for him to work on my temporary dentures, with me sitting around. I could have been doing more, like seeing an ENT much sooner. Then he proceeds to tell me that because of my aggressive absorption we're short on time. That I need to see the ENT like yesterday AND get back to him asap to get these now partial more flimsy thin implants done while I can get anything done at all!
But wait, there is more. The cost for bottom implants were quoted at 31,000 dollars. A quote for top ones wasn't even drawn up yet since it depends on what ENT can do to fix sinus cavity first. I was told that the top implants would be at least as much as bottom ones though. He mentioned there is a good sinus specialist 4 hours away in Atlanta if I want the high end good work that would restore the bone structure damage, but it'll be extremely costly, or I can see local ENT to at very least deal with polyps and he'd work around it (back to part that I'd be missing teeth, on my expensive implants). So yay, now my now partial-implants would cost over 60 grand, not counting for whatever ENT is going to cost, and I have until January at latest to get this all done.
Then he walked out of room and left me with an assistant. I explained displeasure over all this. That everything I tried to avoid, happened anyways. The very situation I wanted to avoid, because of so much wasted time. Time which allowed this level of reabsorption to happen in first place. I even aired my concern about the fact the sinus issue should have been brought up sooner, even if it was only suspected, so it could be dealt with already. Then I brought up concern this all added extra cost, since I went in there with a plan to be done by 6 months BEFORE all these issues happened and that just didn't happen. She bumped the 31,000 down to 25,000 if I pay all cash up front, but would bend no further. Then, when I said I still can't afford it all (lowers, plus ENT, plus uppers), she said 'well you could always borrow the money". Then told me about how much that office cares about my health and doesn't want to see me leave without getting treatment.
Well that's exactly what happened, I left that office with no further plans for treatment and very depressed. I have a semi-loose denture that doesn't stay in without wads of glue that are barely usable, bone that's not only been ruined by one dentist but continued to deteriorate in the care of another because of so much time loss.
So after everything I've been through and all the hope that I got from all of you, this messed up healthcare system let one doctor damage chance of proper care by omitting critical information about their qualifications to cash in on a fool that suddenly had a lot of money, instead of sending me to the right doctor. Followed by another very qualified one who I still respect highly for his wisdom, not take more care to expedite my treatment to keep better treamtent options on table and keep costs down, or at very least bend a lot more on costs for mistakes made by his office or lab that he uses. As i said at beginning of all this, I don't expect to suddenly raise money to pay these doctors, because quite honestly, I don't think i could raise enough if I tried. I feel very let down by the system. So this is a letter to all of you out there, about the united states healthcare system and what it'll do for you, when you need help.
At very least I can say this. my gums are healthy as can be. Ever since removing infection causing bad teeth, and continued oral care, any sign of gum disease is long gone. I have no pain. Don't need antibiotics constantly. I am a little concerned about sinuses, so I guess what money I have left, that isn't going to dental treatment anymore, can go toward seeing an ENT to deal with that. Although I'll probably get nailed with high costs there too. Especially since despite having dental insurance the last 2+ years that barely covers anything, I still have no health insurance because I couldn't justify like 800 a month for mediocre insurance with tons of limitations and high deductibles, because I still reside in that tax bracket of too much (but not enough) for decent affordable insurance (go figure). Oh, and guess when my appointment with ENT is? October 14th. Getting my sinus issue dealt with was time sensitive, and now i'm on a wait list. So that's what is next for me.
All the status updates in this thread have been about keeping you all informed of my progress through this, since original post. I had hoped this status update would be a better one, since we've all been on this journey together and I feel guilty that I haven't got more to show for it all. I'm full of so many second guesses. If I just had done more research before picking dentists. If I had expanded my scope and traveled further, etc etc. Alas, what's done is done.
Now, here is the great news in all this. DBM PVP mods returned and are better than ever. Classic support is going fantastically well. Retail mods still going good. Even some long standing bugs like drop down menus not having scroll bars are finally fixed. DBM is stronger than ever!SUPER TL/DR of really long post:
- I spent years not being able to afford proper health and dental care do to a system that is driven by greedy profit, so my teeth went to crap, contributed to highly by sinus issues I also never got looked at.
- I hit a stress boiling point last year and went on a rant about it and my work stress in general when I was doing too much for one person. To my great surprise, a rant I expected almost no one to see, caused you all rise up to help me
- Sadly, despite even your help, after 11 months of trying to do everything right, the united states healthcare system won out and defeated me. I ended my immediate health risks and pain (the most important thing), but my happy ending was pulled ever so far away from me. All because of the healthcare system lacking: humanity, integrity, and affordability.
- DBM is still doing great. PVP mods even returned! Classic support is going fantastically.
- The results of final CT, and estimate given for lower implants can be viewed here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xn0dofvb6pe6 ... 9nb_a?dl=0